Doughnut Economics is a groundbreaking new economic story that unleashes a lot of positive energy around the world and spurs people into transformative action. Three questions are central in this Double Nature Talk: how come Doughnut Economics inspires so many people? How does it relate to Climate Cleanup and the idea of Double Nature? And finally: why is learning by doing so at the heart of the doughnut economics network? After a presentation by Ruurd Priester, advisor of the Donut Economics Action Lab (DEAL) and acting chair of the Amsterdam Donut Coalition, in this Double Nature Talk we enter into dialogue with Ruurd and Elena Pupazan, initiator of the theme Education & Research within the Amsterdam Donut Coalition. This Double Nature Talk was performed on Wednesday March 3, 8pm CET and will soon be published on our YouTube Channel.